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nieemo

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PostSubject: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 11:54 am

panthers get
leanard little
pick 21 FA
fakhir brown


rams get
peppers


panthers agree
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 11:55 am

Rams Agree

and does anybudy like this color for the site i hate it IMO
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nieemo

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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 11:56 am

any comments
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 1:50 pm

trade seems fine to me, little may be old but he came off of an insane season with 13 sacks, should have a low-mid 90s rating. Fakhir Brown is basically in the middle of his career and should be a mid 80's corner. Adding in the 21st FA pick makes this trade fair in my eyes
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:03 pm

I dont know. I tihnk this should maybe be reveiwed a little more. Peppers is a freak, and he is till young. A FA pick doesnt't make this even in my eyes at all.
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:06 pm

Panthers lost Gamble so they need another corner, and Little is only about 3% worse than peppers. Sure theres the whole age thing but im sure that an 86 CB and maybe a high 70s or early 80s player of the position wanted is enough to compensate for the age and such
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:09 pm

not to mention Little had a better season, 7 Forced Fumbles compared to Pepper's 3, they each had the same amound of sacks and Little had one more tackle
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:13 pm

change my name back, kk thx
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:13 pm

this is a joke, Julius Peppers is the best DE in the NFL, despite his stats, he's young, and should be a DPOY in coming years.

Little maybe has 2 years left in him before retirement. Fahkir Brown is a nickel on other teams. FA picks are useless
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:14 pm

FA picks are helpful, you can get needed depth at any choice of position. Regardless, its a 94, 86 and 79 for a 97 which is perfectly fair
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nieemo

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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:15 pm

little has 3 years left and no way this league will last more than 3 years
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:17 pm

and both GM's agree (eS.)= Emmitt22
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nieemo

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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:19 pm

hhahaa
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:20 pm

PK wrote:
this is a joke, Julius Peppers is the best DE in the NFL, despite his stats, he's young, and should be a DPOY in coming years.

Little maybe has 2 years left in him before retirement. Fahkir Brown is a nickel on other teams. FA picks are useless

J peps may be the best but Little is probably the 3rd best. And it fills what the panthers need giving them a very well rounded defense. They're barely giving up anything currently at DE and they get what they need in return, its a solid deal
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:20 pm

I said it before, and I'm not trying to make people mad or anything. But Little does not compare to Peppers. You can build you Defense around a guy like Peppers. Little is good, but he won't play as long as Peppers will. Julius also goes in pass defense which explains his even more value as a player.

Personally this trade is gonna have to be reworked as far as I'm concerned. Zoom I understand where you are coming from. But Letting go of Peppers for a DE that has a couple years left, and for a 30 year old CB that hasn't been that good, and a FA pick that will land him a 70's player. No. I dont think this trade is good as it is.

In the other league, I traded Peppers and got WAY MORE. So in my eyes. This has to be reworked. Sorry fellas.
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:22 pm

Little had 1 good year, he hasnt had 10+ sacks since 2003
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:23 pm

yea and Little is a MUCH better run stopper, and lets face it theyre both about equal on the pass rush. And for a DE, run stopping is more important than deflecting the odd pass. And no offense to you but Little has been the core of the Rams defense for many years, hes proved to be a player you can build your defense around your taking a lot away from him. Look through ALL his stats, your making this seem as if Little doesnt hold a candle to Peppers just because hes old, sure the trade is slightly off but the Rams do need more help than the Panthers do. Your literally allowing NO leeway here
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:25 pm

PK wrote:
Little had 1 good year, he hasnt had 10+ sacks since 2003

1 good year? BS

14.5 sacks, 2 FF

12 sacks 9 FF

12.5 sacks, 1 INT, 6 FF

9.5 sacks, 4 FF

13 sacks, 7 FF

Thats five right there, if you consider a "good season" being over 14 sacks then J peps has never had a good season
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:27 pm

i think little is underrated and peppers overrated
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:30 pm

Little is underrated and for a while he was the best DE in the league, now he's probably the third best. Peppers is the best but lets face it here, The Panthers are losing 3% on the D-Line, that doesnt make that big of a deal, theyre also getting a lot better on the run-stop while although Peppers is better on pass defense, Fakhir Brown makes up for that and more, this IMPROVES the Panthers team and IMPROVES the rams at the same time. And isnt that what your looking for in trades?
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:31 pm

i think it looks fair. i dont really see what is wrong
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:34 pm

lebronzoom wrote:
Little is underrated and for a while he was the best DE in the league, now he's probably the third best. Peppers is the best but lets face it here, The Panthers are losing 3% on the D-Line, that doesnt make that big of a deal, theyre also getting a lot better on the run-stop while although Peppers is better on pass defense, Fakhir Brown makes up for that and more, this IMPROVES the Panthers team and IMPROVES the rams at the same time. And isnt that what your looking for in trades?


agreed^

nice point lebron
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:37 pm

lebronzoom wrote:
PK wrote:
Little had 1 good year, he hasnt had 10+ sacks since 2003

1 good year? BS

14.5 sacks, 2 FF

12 sacks 9 FF

12.5 sacks, 1 INT, 6 FF

9.5 sacks, 4 FF

13 sacks, 7 FF

Thats five right there, if you consider a "good season" being over 14 sacks then J peps has never had a good season
i said since 2003, i guess you didnt get that Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:40 pm

can someone lock this its fair
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PostSubject: Re: panthers and rams (approved)   panthers and rams (approved) Empty7/2/2007, 2:40 pm

I thought you were just stating he hasnt put up 10 sacks since 2003
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