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Is this trade fair?
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 58% [ 7 ]
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Touchdow
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PostSubject: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:08 pm

Raiders get:
Bryce Fisher
Kevin Curtis
Lito Sheppard
Pick 57
Ben Leber

Eagles get:
Reggie Williams
David Thornton
Daven Holly
Erasmus James
Josh McCown


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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:11 pm

could u post ratings next to their names it makes it easier to see if its fair or not
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:13 pm

just did
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:14 pm

BTW curtis is an 85 with updates
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:15 pm

I thought he'd be worse since hes their like 4th WR. He can take out Baskett then
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:15 pm

Thornton=leber, shepphard
Holly=57, buckhalter
williams=curtis, fisher
brayton=baskett

This is how its explained fair...


williams is not worth 2 85 players

this trade is about 1 first rounders short or 84 player. IMO


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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:15 pm

well i have no power, but i'm going to object to this nonetheless
Lito Sheppard-91
Bryce Fisher-83
Kevin Curtis-85
Pick 57
Leber-83
Buckhalter-81


for

Williams- 84
Thorton-90
Holly-82
brayton-82


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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:19 pm

Dont know if Sheppard will be a 91. Im pegging him at 90

Thornton=Sheppard (hes injury prone), Leber
This is because OLB is more important than CB and sheppard has been injured in the past three seasons

Williams=Curtis
Youth

Brayton=Fisher
Holly= Pick 57, Buckhalter

Holly had 5 INT's last year and Madden will probably make him the Browns #2 CB next year. He'll be mid 80s


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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:20 pm

I took baskett out btw
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:22 pm

mathmatically it looks like 501 to 341 about 2 80s or a 90 and a 70 short (79for 57) and thats after taking out basket.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:22 pm

LOLB and CB are equally important on Madden, CB actually might be more important, and actually took a point away, i think lito will be 92

Holly nonetheless is still a Brown, thus madden will underrate him, he'll be 82ish, which in no way equals an 81 RB and a 2nd round pick
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:25 pm

K man Holly wont be an 82 and if he is hes got potential coming out of his ass.

Why would they make Shepphard a 92 when hes missed games in the last three seasons?

LOLB is way more important than CB. LOLB's run stop AND defend against the pass, CB's just defend against the pass. And with Maddens new system making it harder to make completions, it will be even less important to have a great pass defense since its already a bit harder.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:25 pm

daddie7120 wrote:
mathmatically it looks like 501 to 341 about 2 80s or a 90 and a 70 short (79for 57) and thats after taking out basket.

That math systems scewed.

Thats like saying 2 70 players is better than a 90 player

140 vs 90 pts. Just doesnt work....
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:28 pm

Ill take buckhalter out as well...
Then when you factor in the youth he's getting it comes up to be more than fair. (and for the record he came to me with that offer)
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:31 pm

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
K man Holly wont be an 82 and if he is hes got potential coming out of his ass.

Why would they make Shepphard a 92 when hes missed games in the last three seasons?

LOLB is way more important than CB. LOLB's run stop AND defend against the pass, CB's just defend against the pass. And with Maddens new system making it harder to make completions, it will be even less important to have a great pass defense since its already a bit harder.
First off, how does potential help if we are only doing one season, best case scenerio he improves two points throughout the season

Injury doesn't affect overall ratings, and sheppard is a premier corner

With the new madden system, CBs become more important because they now have the ability to shut down half the field, meaning that they affect the passing game much more then a LB affects the rushing or passing game

and the math system works when all of the players are rated in the same general category
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:34 pm

add baskett or buckhalter back in and change brayton to KBG. i will accept.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:35 pm

this isnt one season, we might (and probably will) be doing it longer

injury does affect rating, it affects it a lot

the math system only works when there are an equal number of players being given up by each side, thats not the case here. However after buckhalter was taken off it can be.

(79)
(85)
(90)
Pick 57
(83)

Eagles get:
(84)
(90)
(85)
(82)


Thats +4 for him, when you factor in leeway, youth and that 4 differnce this trade is fair
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:36 pm

footballnerd85 wrote:
add baskett or buckhalter back in and change brayton to KBG. i will accept.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:37 pm

yea I just changed it, buckhalter is back in and brayton has been switched to KBG
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:38 pm

wait sorry KBG is gone, make it erasmus james
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:38 pm

good i accept glad this worked out.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:38 pm

i still think your ratings are a little in your favor, and even if is +4, then there is the 2nd round pick
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:39 pm

looks more even with buckhalter out I still am unsure about the cb olb arguement? But its close imo. I would go for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:39 pm

Raiders get:
Bryce Fisher
Kevin Curtis
Lito Sheppard
Pick 57
Ben Leber


Eagles get:
Reggie Williams
David Thornton
Daven Holly
Erasmus James

This is how it will look now I think
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PostSubject: Re: Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus)   Raiders Eagles trade(approved by jesus) Empty7/8/2007, 6:42 pm

hey i want KBG not james add buckhalter back in.
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