Best QB all time UNBIASED

no excuses

nieemo wrote:

sanders is the best player in NFL history

if u mean barry then yea i agree

Favre, no doubt in my mind

PK wrote:

Favre, no doubt in my mind

NOOOOO.

PK wrote:

Favre, no doubt in my mind

BOOOOOOOO EXTREMELY OVERRATED BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

lebronzoom wrote:

Silvabullet48 wrote:

that's true...the reason your doing that zoom is cause you hate the pats

cough*snow bowl* cough

the snow bowl was BS, and YES I DO HATE THE PATS WITH A PASSION

But on an unbiased note, brady should not be on that list

How was it BS the NFL said it was the correct call but the ref explained it wrong and it wasnt all the refs fault after that call it was 4th and 10 if the Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this. And Brady should be on that list hes like what 3rd on the most superbowls list? He brought us on 3 game winning superbowl drives i think that alone gets him on that list.

footballnerd85 wrote:

PK wrote:

Favre, no doubt in my mind

BOOOOOOOO EXTREMELY OVERRATED BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

lol.....

mksadng wrote:

lebronzoom wrote:

Silvabullet48 wrote:

that's true...the reason your doing that zoom is cause you hate the pats

cough*snow bowl* cough

the snow bowl was BS, and YES I DO HATE THE PATS WITH A PASSION

But on an unbiased note, brady should not be on that list

How was it BS the NFL said it was the correct call but the ref explained it wrong and it wasnt all the refs fault after that call it was 4th and 10 if the Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this. And Brady should be on that list hes like what 3rd on the most superbowls list? He brought us on 3 game winning superbowl drives i think that alone gets him on that list.

you obviously havent seen the video, I suggest you actually watch it first before you come here ranting that it was a fair call. And the matter at hand here is it would have been a turnover, we could have run down the clock and it would have been over. Brady even admitted he fumbled that ball

mksadng wrote:

Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this.

dont say that shit, if the refs had done their job we wouldnt even be talking about this, not if the raiders had done their job. I think forcing a fumble on third down in the last minute or so of play is doing their job

lebronzoom wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this.

dont say that shit, if the refs had done their job we wouldnt even be talking about this, not if the raiders had done their job. I think forcing a fumble on third down in the last minute or so of play is doing their job

hmmmm ya because the NFL saying that it was the RIGHT call but the ref described it wrong is them not doing their job their was a penalty but the refs explained it wrong

mksadng wrote:

lebronzoom wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this.

dont say that shit, if the refs had done their job we wouldnt even be talking about this, not if the raiders had done their job. I think forcing a fumble on third down in the last minute or so of play is doing their job

hmmmm ya because the NFL saying that it was the RIGHT call but the ref described it wrong is them not doing their job their was a penalty but the refs explained it wrong

lmfao there was a penalty?? You dont even know what happened did you? lshmgsfo. It was disputing a fumble not a penalty watch the damn video first

lebronzoom wrote:

mksadng wrote:

lebronzoom wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this.

dont say that shit, if the refs had done their job we wouldnt even be talking about this, not if the raiders had done their job. I think forcing a fumble on third down in the last minute or so of play is doing their job

hmmmm ya because the NFL saying that it was the RIGHT call but the ref described it wrong is them not doing their job their was a penalty but the refs explained it wrong

lmfao there was a penalty?? You dont even know what happened did you? lshmgsfo. It was disputing a fumble not a penalty watch the damn video first

ok misswording my bad? ya i know what happened im a pats fan it was the tuck rule he was hit when his arm was in motion so it was ruled an incomplete pass not a fumble.

mksadng wrote:

lebronzoom wrote:

mksadng wrote:

lebronzoom wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Raiders defense had done their job and stopped them we wouldnt even be talking about this.

dont say that shit, if the refs had done their job we wouldnt even be talking about this, not if the raiders had done their job. I think forcing a fumble on third down in the last minute or so of play is doing their job

hmmmm ya because the NFL saying that it was the RIGHT call but the ref described it wrong is them not doing their job their was a penalty but the refs explained it wrong

lmfao there was a penalty?? You dont even know what happened did you? lshmgsfo. It was disputing a fumble not a penalty watch the damn video first

ok misswording my bad? ya i know what happened im a pats fan it was the tuck rule he was hit when his arm was in motion so it was ruled an incomplete pass not a fumble.

There wasnt even INDISPUTABLE evidence that was and he had touched it with both hands and had control over it. If thats the case why dont all QB's just pump fake the football right after the snap, then if they get hit and fumble it, it wont be called a fumble because of this tuck rule. The reason is because if they maintain control of it, its still considered a fumble, Brady maintained control of the football when both hands touched it, and there was NOT ENOUGH proof to even get close to overturning that call. Refs made a crutial error that screwed over the Raiders

Ok ill agree with you that their wasnt enough evidence to turn that over but point is theirs still 2 minutes on the clock and the pats had 3 timouts and in the 4th quarter the raiders couldnt move the ball period so how do u know the pats dont stop the raiders get the ball back and send it into OT anyway? and even after that bad call how can u not stop someone on 4th and 15?

Raiders were still up by 7 at that point I believe, all the raiders would have needed was one first down, there would have been about 1:30 left on the clock, and pats would have been out of timeouts by then most likely. just keep kneeling from there and its game over. Not to mention otherwise Brady would have had to restart his drive from about the 20 with 1:20 left and no timeouts, not sure if that could happen and it would have at least been A LOT tougher.

Ok but the Patriots were also getting screwed left and right against the broncos in 2005. (Asante Samuels pass interference even though he pretty much got thrown to the ground by Rod Smith or whoever he was guarding, Ben Watson chasing down Champ Bailey in the endzone knocking it into the endzone should have been our ball but they gave it to broncos on the 1) My point is every team gets screwed over by officials once in a while we got a call our way one year and we got screwed over the next im sure the Raiders have had a couple calls go their way during their superbowl runs

those calls werent as crutial as this though, and we arent talking about that broncos game anyway (was that even in the playoffs). This was definately top 3 blown calls all time and the raiders CONSTANTLY get screwed over (76 against the Steelers, we got taken out of the superbowl game because of that immaculate reception, there was a blatant clip that should have been called.) Sure we screwed you guys got screwed over by a call against us that same year but I dont think it was as bad as this one. The bottom line is sure refs dont get calls right every now and then but to overturn a call on virtually no evidence is clearly showing some sort of biased opinion.

Actually it was in the playoffs and BOTH those calls were very very crucial both of them led to EASY TDs on horrible calls and cost the patriots that playoff game and could cost them another superbowl for all i know

And Ellis Hobbs' PI call when he jumped infront of Wayne in the AFC Championship was ruled by the league as a mistake by the refs

RpAaVtEsNS wrote:

And Ellis Hobbs' PI call when he jumped infront of Wayne in the AFC Championship was ruled by the league as a mistake by the refs

Colts wont that game by more than 7 though I think

mksadng wrote:

Actually it was in the playoffs and BOTH those calls were very very crucial both of them led to EASY TDs on horrible calls and cost the patriots that playoff game and could cost them another superbowl for all i know

I dont recall that play but what was the score at the time, what was the final score and when did that happen?

lebron u cant win. their are to many pats fans here

SimsZilla wrote:

lebron u cant win. their are to many pats fans here

Pfft I can fend them off with my left hand if thats what I need to do, theres no way their pathetic blown calls can compete with the snow bowl call

i agree with u lebron. they cant compete

lebronzoom wrote:

RpAaVtEsNS wrote:

And Ellis Hobbs' PI call when he jumped infront of Wayne in the AFC Championship was ruled by the league as a mistake by the refs

Colts wont that game by more than 7 though I think

No if i recall they won by 4